It’s always a pleasure to talk with Jad Abumrad and Robert Krulwich and their crew at the show Radiolab. For their latest episode, “Black Box,” we talked about the mystery of consciousness and how I got in an argument with my anesthesiologist before I had my appendix taken out.

I’ve embedded the whole episode here:

Anesthesia is deeply fascinating, even if you’ve never gone under, because it brings us face to face with the mystery of consciousness. I’ve written about it here and here.